Comments on: Stirred up dem bees: Should BSDDB be removed from Python?

By: CaptSolo

CaptSolo — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:45:03 +0000

It's a pity that the final decision was to remove the module, though i can see the rationale.

I've found bsddb to be enormously useful (including situations where sqlite's performance was very low in comparison). Thanks a lot to Jesus Cea for maintaining pybsddb and I hope he keeps up doing this.

By: Uldis Bojars

Uldis Bojars — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:45:03 +0000

It's a pity that the final decision was to remove the module, though i can see the rationale.

By: jnoller

jnoller — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:33:48 +0000

No, see, the timbot doesn't pretend to be a man. Timbot is simply timbot

By: John M. Camara

John M. Camara — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:29:38 +0000

Another good reference is the first few pages of the Introduction to Berkeley DB Reference Guide.

http://pybsddb.sourceforge.net/ref/intro/data.html

By: Benjamin Peterson

Benjamin Peterson — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:22:54 +0000

I thought that was the TimBot, actually.

By: John M. Camara

John M. Camara — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:06:50 +0000

Klaus,

Sqlite may be a proper db in your opinion but that's only due to you not understanding why different types of databases exists. At times a relational database is the wrong tool for the job and in these cases a basdb can be 10s of thousands of times faster. Chances are you just work on applications that work well with relational databases so you don't see the point of using other types.

To get an idea of the differences between bsddb and a relational database you could read the following white paper from Oracle. Just take it with a grain of salt as they like to paint a prettier picture when talking about relational databases. Which should be no surprise as that's their big money maker. Any way, it's always best to choose the right tool for the job.

http://www.oracle.com/database/docs/Berkeley-DB...

By: jnoller

jnoller — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:38:28 +0000

Skip is a machine simply posing as a man

By: jnoller

jnoller — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:36:06 +0000

I was in meetings – but I finally updated the post with the pronouncement.

By: Benjamin Peterson

Benjamin Peterson — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:28:33 +0000

Skip has already supplied a proof concept sqlite backend: http://bugs.python.org/issue3783

By: Brett

Brett — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:59:26 +0000

Just so people know, Barry said the only way he would change his mind was if Guido stepped in and said bsddb should go. Guido has subsequently stated that he supports removing bsddb in 3.0 (this does not affect 2.x).