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	<title>Comments on: Unladen Swallow: Python 3’s Best Feature.</title>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://jessenoller.com/2010/01/06/unladen-swallow-python-3s-best-feature/comment-page-1/#comment-139114</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, as far as I remember the problem was that unladen swallow is based on LLVM which isn&#039;t available on as many platforms as CPython is.&lt;br&gt;This would mean that the original implementation would have to hang around until LLVM became available on all the other architectures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, as far as I remember the problem was that unladen swallow is based on LLVM which isn’t available on as many platforms as CPython is.<br />This would mean that the original implementation would have to hang around until LLVM became available on all the other architectures.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://jessenoller.com/2010/01/06/unladen-swallow-python-3s-best-feature/comment-page-1/#comment-137291</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, as far as I remember the problem was that unladen swallow is based on LLVM which isn&#039;t available on as many platforms as CPython is.&lt;br&gt;This would mean that the original implementation would have to hang around until LLVM became available on all the other architectures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, as far as I remember the problem was that unladen swallow is based on LLVM which isn’t available on as many platforms as CPython is.<br />This would mean that the original implementation would have to hang around until LLVM became available on all the other architectures.</p>
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		<title>By: Lennart Regebro</title>
		<link>http://jessenoller.com/2010/01/06/unladen-swallow-python-3s-best-feature/comment-page-1/#comment-137196</link>
		<dc:creator>Lennart Regebro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The problem is that I don&#039;t know where to begin! &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, start with porting something that you yourself uses. If you don&#039;t know how, it&#039;s true that the documentation is *very* lacking at the moment. I&#039;m writing an series of articles in The Python Magazine starting in the January issue, those might help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The problem is that I don’t know where to begin! ”</p>
<p>Well, start with porting something that you yourself uses. If you don’t know how, it’s true that the documentation is *very* lacking at the moment. I’m writing an series of articles in The Python Magazine starting in the January issue, those might help.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff McNeil</title>
		<link>http://jessenoller.com/2010/01/06/unladen-swallow-python-3s-best-feature/comment-page-1/#comment-137193</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff McNeil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve the same (seemingly endless) pile here, too.  Though, what do you have in mind? If I can find a few cycles (and that&#039;s a big *if*) I&#039;d be willing to help a bit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Generally, anything with the words &quot;Enterprise&quot; or &quot;Proven&quot; in them tend to be technological anchors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve the same (seemingly endless) pile here, too.  Though, what do you have in mind? If I can find a few cycles (and that’s a big *if*) I’d be willing to help a bit.</p>
<p>Generally, anything with the words “Enterprise” or “Proven” in them tend to be technological anchors.</p>
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		<title>By: Toot</title>
		<link>http://jessenoller.com/2010/01/06/unladen-swallow-python-3s-best-feature/comment-page-1/#comment-137186</link>
		<dc:creator>Toot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That seems like an ambitious undertaking. But Python 3 really needs something special to attract people. Right now it seems way to little benefit for a lot of pain of not being able to use older packages.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But putting it into Python 3 for the &quot;sole&quot; purpose of being the carrot - when in fact it currently runs with python 2.X - that&#039;s a little bit questionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That seems like an ambitious undertaking. But Python 3 really needs something special to attract people. Right now it seems way to little benefit for a lot of pain of not being able to use older packages.</p>
<p>But putting it into Python 3 for the “sole” purpose of being the carrot — when in fact it currently runs with python 2.X — that’s a little bit questionable.</p>
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		<title>By: jnoller</title>
		<link>http://jessenoller.com/2010/01/06/unladen-swallow-python-3s-best-feature/comment-page-1/#comment-137185</link>
		<dc:creator>jnoller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will try to! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will try to! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Lennart Regebro</title>
		<link>http://jessenoller.com/2010/01/06/unladen-swallow-python-3s-best-feature/comment-page-1/#comment-137184</link>
		<dc:creator>Lennart Regebro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I&#039;m not coming to PyCon, so you better keep me updated. ;-) This is fantastic news, I hope it will happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I’m not coming to PyCon, so you better keep me updated. ;-) This is fantastic news, I hope it will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Masklinn</title>
		<link>http://jessenoller.com/2010/01/06/unladen-swallow-python-3s-best-feature/comment-page-1/#comment-137183</link>
		<dc:creator>Masklinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; The new print syntax is broken.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How? (and not only do I don&#039;t see how it&#039;s broken, I do find it much better than the previous one especially when doing anything beyond a vanilla print)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; We can no longer format strings the old fashioned way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are wrong. The &#039;%&#039; operator is considered obsolete in Python 3, but it&#039;s still here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.python.org/3.1/library/stdtypes.html#old-string-formatting-operations&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.python.org/3.1/library/stdtypes.htm...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IOW, you don&#039;t give any justification to your first declaration and the second one is plain wrong.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; Python 3k didn&#039;t.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Python 3 is a better and more useable language than Python 2 on pretty much every front. The only thing it&#039;s missing is libraries adoption, and I trust that this will right itself within a year or two at worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; The new print syntax is broken.</p>
<p>How? (and not only do I don’t see how it’s broken, I do find it much better than the previous one especially when doing anything beyond a vanilla print)</p>
<p>&gt; We can no longer format strings the old fashioned way.</p>
<p>You are wrong. The ‘%’ operator is considered obsolete in Python 3, but it’s still here: <a href="http://docs.python.org/3.1/library/stdtypes.html#old-string-formatting-operations" rel="nofollow">http://docs.python.org/3.1/library/stdtypes.htm…</a></p>
<p>IOW, you don’t give any justification to your first declaration and the second one is plain wrong.</p>
<p>&gt; Python 3k didn’t.</p>
<p>Python 3 is a better and more useable language than Python 2 on pretty much every front. The only thing it’s missing is libraries adoption, and I trust that this will right itself within a year or two at worst.</p>
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		<title>By: jnoller</title>
		<link>http://jessenoller.com/2010/01/06/unladen-swallow-python-3s-best-feature/comment-page-1/#comment-137182</link>
		<dc:creator>jnoller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are currently developing against trunk (2.7) however; given their focus is on the bytecode layer, the transition to Python 3 syntax is relatively simple(ish).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are currently developing against trunk (2.7) however; given their focus is on the bytecode layer, the transition to Python 3 syntax is relatively simple(ish).</p>
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		<title>By: jnoller</title>
		<link>http://jessenoller.com/2010/01/06/unladen-swallow-python-3s-best-feature/comment-page-1/#comment-137181</link>
		<dc:creator>jnoller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah - RHEL is the bane of New Things, which I think is the point :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for where to begin, I have an idea for an index like you suggest - I need to think about it more and find someone willing to push it out, as I&#039;ve got a pile of Other Really Important Things to Do. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah — RHEL is the bane of New Things, which I think is the point :)</p>
<p>As for where to begin, I have an idea for an index like you suggest — I need to think about it more and find someone willing to push it out, as I’ve got a pile of Other Really Important Things to Do. :(</p>
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